Tuesday, December 30, 2008

Abstinence Education

This morning when I woke up, the morning talk show was throwing around a study that was just released, measuring the success of abstinence-based sex education. The study was apparently measuring sexual activity between two groups of teens: those who had pledged to remain abstinent and those who had not. Numbers seemed to show that in both groups, roughly the same number of teens became sexually active. The reporters stated that the main difference is that the teens who had intended to remain abstinent were far more likely to not use birth control. I say 'apparently' and focus on the reporting merely because a good portion of the time, the interpreted results of a study on a morning news show (or any news show or mainstream article) are not the real results of the study.

What really struck me as odd was the interpretation of the journalist who was reporting on it -- "It's great if you can do it, but most of us can't, so be prepared just in case."

Now, if someone is trying to lose weight, no one is going to tell you to carry a cheesecake around, just in case you can't do it. They tell you instead to make it hard. Get offending food out of your house, so that you have to go out and get something andhave more time to think. They advise you to have strategies -- know where you can go to get food that you CAN eat. Have food around that is good for you (I knew a guy who ate 8 apples before going to a Christmas party. He lost 150 lbs.). Have other options that will satisfy your sweet tooth. Find something on the menu of places that you like to go that will help you. When you think you are hungry, have water first...go for a walk...do something else, go to bed.

They also tell you to change your attitude...have a goal. Put up a picture of a skinny you on the fridge. Make a list of why you want to lose weight and post it on the bathroom mirror.

Also...be around people who will support you and give you good messages.

In short, change your environment, change your behaviors, change your attitude, and change your culture. These are probably very key to any behavior or value that one wants to support.

With teens -- and it wasn't SO long ago that I was in the dating realm, we don't do any of this with them or for them. Instead, the mantra that I heard from most parents is "I don't want them to think that I don't trust them" and this is used as an excuse to not give them the tools to succeed. And this journalist, as well as others, are maintaining that these kids should give it the old college try, but still have that condom in the wallet or go on The Pill, just in case.

Lauren Winner, the author of Real Sex: The Naked Truth About Chastity, and keynote speaker at the Cranach Institute's conference "In the Image of God: A Christian View of Love and Marriage" talked about this in her presentation. When she and her husband were dating while in masters' programs, her campus pastor had advised them to keep away from behavior in private that they wouldn't do under the gazebo in the center of their college campus. What would they feel safe doing? Basically just kissing. Why? Because it was a public place. So then they changed where they met and what they did. They went to places where they could be alone but in public. They didn't go to each other's houses where they were really alone and tempted, and as always...this became harder the more in love they became, because romantic love causes two people to become completely absorbed in each other and to crave each other. Other than that, they went out with friends, participated in the college singles group, and kept friends around them that shared their values. (one of the intriguing things about her book is that she started writing it in order to prove that it wasn't important that Christians abstain. She found the typical arguments against having sex to be superficial and meaningless...yet her conclusions were that abstinence is very important. It wasn't the conclusion that her heart WANTED to find).

If the only reasons kids are given are only the should nots, they are almost doomed for failure. Messages like it's naughty, you can get pregnant, you can get STDs, don't hold up in the heat of passion or against the desires to be loved, wanted, and valued in the moment.

What they need to be told about are the beauties of God's promises. Why He created marriage. Why sex is beautiful and only truly wonderful between a husband and a wife - where they can truly be one and show real love and commitment to each other. My husband recalls how his pastor told him in confirmation how he shares a bond with his wife that he has never had with any other woman, and she has never had with any other man. That made my husband yearn for that, and gave him strength in truly tempting times.

When my husband and I were dating, there was also another realization there..that as wonderful as it would be to just forget it all and turn off our brains for a few hours, we were truly aware that if we did, we truly WERE sinning against each other, and were hurting each other. We'd had some small tastes of that hurt in our dating relations, enough to drive home that really letting go would be truly painful to each other, and our relationship might not survive it -- something else that pointed out that the true commitment wasn't there until the rings were exchanged.

Culture is a important also. We're in a culture that glorifies sex. Not only that, but glorifies SINGLE sex. We are bombarded with messages about how exciting and wonderful that surrendering, rebelling, and partaking of the forbidden fruit is. Married sex is supposedly tame, boring, and needs excitement. Our kids see this all over the place. They need messages from us that let them know that this is a BIG HUGE lie. Marriages don't need spiced up through fantasy, toys, and new positions. They are fed through love, respect, and honor. That wonderful comfort and familiarity is marriage's strength. We are taught to despise this very strength in the grocery market aisles, on t.v. shows, and in our self-help books.

Kids also need our support through setting limits...curfews, restrictions on where they can go, who they can be with, what activities they can do. These are loving. Our homes (our living rooms, anyway)need to be open to them, so they have a place where they can be alone, yet very much not alone..and they need to be taught to think and date in a manner that allows them to protect themselves. They need to be encouraged to possibly stay home through college, or their college environments need to be scoped out for more than simply the comfort of the dorms. I know many Lutheran parents who make it a point to check out the congregations that are supporting their kids'campuses to make sure they are preaching and teaching Word and Sacrament, and provide support for their teens. We need to help shape our kids' subculture to support them in their chastity, especially since our general culture tells them that sex before marriage is good and desirable. As my OB/GYN told me before I got married "you need to make sure you are sexually compatible before you get married."

Many cultures use arranged marriage to protect their children, others use chaperones, others use shotgun weddings and the threat of shame. A modern type of courtship is popular among some Christians right now. While some of these means are better than others, probably what keeps teens chaste is the combination of knowing what is right, feeling what is right, and fear of repercussions.

The Mormon "Church" sets up seminary buildings across from campuses where they have classes on all sorts of things including "creative dating," set up their own fraternity and sorority, hold all sorts of social activities, and even have specifically college-aged congregations (wards, they call them). In many ways, it is highly successful in creating a subculture within the college culture that supports their values, as one example.

To a great extent, I doubt whether or not abstinence based education can truly be successful if it is divorced from the Author and Creator of marriage, because it really can be no more than a program that emphasizes how sex has risks and tells teens they aren't ready for those risks yet. But knowing that there is an accountability before God, and that He made us, loves us, and knows beyond all doubt what is right for us is a completely different approach. All Christians have an accountability before God to support individuals in their quest to reach marriage as virgins in our friendships, our support, our prayers and in the structures we set up to support them in that.

But the idea that teens need to be prepared "just in case" is ridiculous. They need to be strengthened and supported in their resolve, forgiven and supported in doing what is right when they sin. And we probably need to take a good long look at our attitudes toward marriage. In general, American Christians have pretty much fully embraced the worldly idea that you go to college, get a job, and then when you are ready, you get married. If I learned anything in Utah, it was that it CAN be done differently. Most of my friends were married before they were done with college. Many had kids. As Christians, we need to seriously look at whether or not we are taking marriage -- something God pleasing and that He promises will bless us, and subjugating it to the gods of knowledge, money, career, and vast life experience.

Monday, December 29, 2008

Knitting Again

My hubby got me a set of beautiful interchangable needles from Knitpicks this year (my kids got me the organizer to put them in...very cool). So, in celebration, I picked up the scarf that I'd been working on a year or so ago, and started knitting again.

I don't think I am completely into the knitting groove yet, though, because when I was knitting on this before, I was completely fascinated with the way the pattern was going. Now I just keep thinking that the person who decided it would be cool to continually knit along the hypotenuses (?) of various triangles must truly be a sadist, and the interesting pattern is just the mind game to keep you coming back....


But the needles are a joy, and the color pattern in the wood is just beautiful (though it might be doing the same thing as the knitting itself).

Merry fifth day of Christmas
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Wednesday, December 24, 2008

Christmas Memories

Our family doesn't "do" Santa Claus. We don't condemn it, either, and don't worry, we've made it a point to teach our children not to spoil the fun for your children.

My husband decided that he didn't want to add Santa Claus to the mix because his family didn't have Santa Claus, either, and he still felt like Christmas was the most joyous holiday ever. Later, I found out that his parents' did have Santa, but Jeff was the youngest, and so everyone else pretty much knew that there was no Santa by the time he was old enough to remember everything. At any rate, not much energy had really been put into it (but his mother was surprised by his revelation that they didn't have Santa). Either way, it doesn't make a difference. He always remembered having Christmas focused on Christ.

And we've pretty much found the same thing. My kids have problems sleeping Christmas Eve because they are so excited, they enjoy getting and receiving presents, but they also remember what it is about. (and as the good rule goes...we replace the tradition of Santa Claus with an excited energy about Advent).

We handled the Santa thing very simply by using pretty much these exact words. "Santa Claus was a man who lived a very long time ago, and he gave gifts to children. Some people choose to remember him on Christmas, too. We like to focus on the birth of Jesus."

Not that it doesn't have its repercussions though. One of my favorite memories was when Chris was around four (now remember, we were very careful how we phrased that). We were in an outlet mall in Barstow, CA, just before Christmas. A very nice, elderly saleswoman was talking with Chris, and was very charmed by him. Then she asked him "Is Santa bringing you lots of presents this year?" Chris very emphatically replied "Mommy and Daddy told me Santa Claus is DEAD!!!"

She was horrified. After my original feeling of wanting to hide inside a clothing rack (I was sure she felt like we should be reported), we laughed hysterically all the way back home.

But another thought occurred to me, too. It really amazed me at that time that she would be horrified by that. There are plenty of people who don't observe Christmas. There are Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, agnostics, atheists, Hindus, Muslims, etc. In California, this is a very strong reality. There are plenty of families who don't observe Christmas at all for one reason or another. And honestly, I am happier about the fact that people who don't believe in Christ choose not to observe it at all rather than observing it brainlessly, or choosing to make it something completely different than Christ's birth.

I know that these past few years, people have been very upset about stores saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." But the reality is there are lots of holidays being observed at this point of the year, and to be perfectly frank, the observation of Christ's birth is not about buying presents, going shopping, and sending cards. These things are nice, but as far as a Christmas tradition, it is relatively new. Christmas is about Christ's Mass -- a Holy Communion service that is focused on remembering when and how our Savior was born. God took on flesh in order to be a sacrifice for our sins. The presents are about us sharing that joy...but that joy can be shared without the presents. Unfortunately, the opposite is often true....the things that I MUST do to get Christmas "done" often take away from that joy by the sheer length of that to-do list (buy this, decorate this tree, bake these cookies, etc.)

So really, I don't care what the stores do. As long as they are not telling me that I can't respond back with a "Merry Christmas," since that is the holiday I am observing. I don't mind them showing respect for the fact that the person who is walking through the door to make a purchase might not be Christian. In fact, the way things are going, even here in the Midwest, there is a good chance that they are not.

Maybe I'm a little odd, but sometimes I think that it would be much better for Christmas to be a holiday that "those nutty Christians observe because they believe something 'crazy' about God being born as a man in a stable" rather than it being about supporting our economy, trampling people to get the lastest Wii, or about some fat man in a red suit that was invented by Coca Cola -- because he bears little resemblance to the real Saint Nicholas -- and I doubt Saint Nicholas would've been flattered with what we've made him into. One gives us an opportunity to tell people what Christmas is really about. The latter doesn't allow room for Christ in his own birthday.

So I know the world sees me as a Grinch...and maybe I am. But in my old age, I am becoming more and more sensitive to the things that take glory away from God, and realizing in a world where Truth matters less and less, that this might matter more and more.

Merry Christmas everyone...Gloria in Excelsis Deo.

Wednesday, December 17, 2008

Basic instructions - bold what you've done (HT La Paz Home Learning)

1. Started your own blog
2. Slept under the stars
3. Played in a band (I played flute in elementary school)
4. Visited Hawaii
5. Watched a meteor shower
6. Given more than you can afford to charity
7. Been to Disneyland
8. Climbed a mountain
9. Held a praying mantis
10. Sang a solo (Kenny Roger's "The Gambler" I was ten and it was our school talent show)
11. Bungee jumped
12. Visited Paris (No, but I've been to Perris, CA)
13. Watched a lightning storm at sea (actually, I was on Lake Mead)
14. Taught yourself an art from scratch
15. Adopted a child (been through the homestudy process, but then I got pregnant with Maggie, and so when we had a match, the county wouldn't place them)
16. Had food poisoning
17. Walked to the top of the Statue of Liberty
18. Grown your own vegetables
19. Seen the Mona Lisa in France
20. Slept on an overnight train
21. Had a pillow fight
22. Hitch hiked
23. Taken a sick day when you’re not ill
24. Built a snow fort
25. Held a lamb
26. Gone skinny dipping
27. Run a Marathon
28. Ridden in a gondola in Venice
29. Seen a total eclipse (sun and moon!)
30. Watched a sunrise or sunset
31. Hit a home run
32. Been on a cruise
33. Seen Niagara Falls in person
34. Visited the birthplace of your ancestors (I live in the town my grandma was born in)
35. Seen an Amish community
36. Taught yourself a new language (trying)
37. Had enough money to be truly satisfied
38. Seen the Leaning Tower of Pisa in person
39. Gone rock climbing
40. Seen Michelangelo’s David (at Caesar's Palace)
41. Sung karaoke
42. Seen Old Faithful geyser erupt
43. Bought a stranger a meal at a restaurant
44. Visited Africa
45. Walked on a beach by moonlight (my first date with my honey was on the beach)
46. Been transported in an ambulance
47. Had your portrait painted
48. Gone deep sea fishing
49. Seen the Sistine Chapel in person
50. Been to the top of the Eiffel Tower in Paris
51. Gone scuba diving or snorkeling (snorkeling)
52. Kissed in the rain (oh yeah)
53. Played in the mud
54. Gone to a drive-in theater
55. Been in a movie
56. Visited the Great Wall of China
57. Started a business
58. Taken a martial arts class
59. Visited Russia
60. Served at a soup kitchen
61. Sold Girl Scout Cookies
62. Gone whale watching
63. Got flowers for no reason
64. Donated blood, platelets or plasma
65. Gone sky diving
66. Visited a Nazi Concentration Camp
67. Bounced a check
68. Flown in a helicopter
69. Saved a favorite childhood toy
70. Visited the Lincoln Memoria
71. Eaten Caviar
72. Pieced a quilt
73. Stood in Times Square
74. Toured the Everglades
75. Been fired from a job
76. Seen the Changing of the Guards in London
77. Broken a bone
78. Been on a speeding motorcycle
79. Seen the Grand Canyon in person (it was too busy, so we went to the Meteor Crater instead)
80. Published a book
81. Visited the Vatican
82. Bought a brand new car (but probably won't again)
83. Walked in Jerusalem
84. Had your picture in the newspaper
85. Read the entire Bible
86. Visited the White House
87. Killed and prepared an animal for eating
88. Had chickenpox
89. Saved someone’s life
90. Sat on a jury
91. Met someone famous
92. Joined a book club
93. Lost a loved one
94. Had a baby
95. Seen the Alamo in person
96. Swam in the Great Salt Lake (nope..it was Summer, and it stinks in the Summer)
97. Been involved in a law suit
98. Owned a cell phone
99. Been stung by a bee
100. Read an entire book in one day (easily...as long as it is under 350 pages)

Don't Know Much

I haven't blogged much lately, if you haven't noticed. Winter is really kicking me in the gut this year. I actually started feeling it by September. Work has been some of my sanity because it gets me out driving in the sunlight for a couple of hours at a time, but that has slowed down. I have lots of opinions about things, but don't seem to be able to put them in to words. I have been skipping out on things that I normally do because I can't seem to deal with people (I mean, worse than I normally deal with them) or I don't feel good, but I can't tell if I am fighting a cold, or if I have a stuffy nose AND am just emotionally worn down.

Yep....my friend is back. Seasonal Affective Disorder. I had it when I lived in Utah, but it was pretty much absent in California and Arizona, and it has gotten worse each year here, probably just because I know it is coming and I dread it.

When I went to Hawaii last December, the change that I felt in just a couple of days was amazing. I felt more myself than I had in months, I all of a sudden felt like I could think, I felt happy. I haven't felt happy in December in five years, except for then. I really didn't realize how bad it was until then, and now I am really aware that I'm being pushed back into the cave every time the days start getting shorter.

I went to the doctor a few years ago, after we moved here, but Maggie was still nursing and I don't do anything to keep from getting pregnant, so I really didn't want a chemical answer. Diet has helped -- staying away from sugars and starches, but the carb cravings that come along with this are really hard to fight. So, I'm getting a therapy light. Now that they don't cost thousands of dollars (though Concordia Plan still won't cover it), I'm going to manage it.

Maybe it will help my blogging...since I am going to have to sit for a couple of hours...I might actually knit, I might actually blog, I might actually read something besides Harry Potter or Pride and Prejudice -- both for the 20th time - because I've read them so many times I don't have to really think about them.

Wednesday, December 10, 2008

Winter Meetings

Further proof that baseball is a liturgical sport: Winter Meetings. They are the point when baseball fans everywhere stop analyzing, rejoicing in, or bemoaning last year, and start looking at the hope of the next season. New players are signed and hope springs anew and we start counting down the days until Spring Training, which is where players subject their bodies to the needed training and discipline in wait for the season to begin in April (around the time of Easter!).

Anyway....The Dodgers have made me happy. Nothing fabulous or mind blowing, but important all the same. We've signed a back up infielder - Mark Loretta - a good, steady guy who can play all positions and who did us enough damage as a Padre a couple of years ago. I've always liked him, and he's been great on my fantasy team.

But I am so happy we managed to sign Casey Blake to a 3 year contract. He is just wonderful. He is so clutch and he's a good support to the rest of the team. We managed to get him from the Indians last year (and I was roundly congratulated in that) and he is just great.

I don't know if we will re-sign Manny. I don't want him on his terms, or for more than a couple of years at a time, and we need pitching. But all in all, I'm looking to next year, and with our young'ns, I'm starting to get just a bit eager.

Sunday, December 07, 2008

The Bailout

I think Mark Cuban has an interesting alternative idea regarding handling the auto industry crisis. It doesn't help me much on my views on how the Constitution figures in, but it makes more sense than the bailouts do.

One point that he makes early on is a very valid one. I have never bought a foreign car...but have almost exclusively bought Toyota and Nissan when it has been my choice (my current car, a Mercury Villager is really a Nissan Quest). They have been made in Kentucky and Tennessee, and the majority of their parts were made in America as well. The profits stay in America for the most part as well. I have a friend who dogsat for the Vice President of Nissan America (remember a long time ago, they had a commercial that had "this space reserved for Bob" and a lot of other "Bob" stuff. He was Bob....had the sign in his garage. I was in Bob's house in Orange County, CA). We can't underestimate the role that these companies play in our economy, and the examples they play in how much better their business models are, top to bottom and bottom to top.

Saturday, December 06, 2008

Christmas meme

In an effort to counter the Grinch that I am, I swiped this from Cheryl's blog....Since winter blues have me in too much of a fog to write anything other than memes, might as well embrace 'em!! Blessed Advent everyone.

Egg Nog or Hot Chocolate? Hot chocolate...though I am really more of a vanilla chai latte girl myself.

Does Santa wrap presents or set them under the tree? We don't really do Santa. When I was growing up though, Santa's presents rarely were wrapped.

Colored lights on tree or white? Colored and sparkly.

When do you put your decorations up? We put up Advent decorations at the start of Advent...the Advent wreath, the manger scenes, various angels and such. Christmas decorations - tree, ornaments, stockings, etc. go up Christmas Eve between the services and then they stay up until Epiphany.

What is your favorite holiday dish (excluding dessert)? Cranberry sauce. I love my homemade cranberry sauce. I grew up thinking you could only get it in a can.

Favorite holiday memory as a child: My dad teaching me to ride a bike.

When and how did you learn the truth about Santa? I think around 1st or 2nd grade, but in 4th grade I decided to prove it by asking Santa for a ten speed but just telling my parents I wanted a bike. I got the bike. But mom said if you stopped believing in Santa he stopped bringing gifts. :)

Do you open a gift on Christmas Eve? We've done both, but my hubby is more of a traditionalist and prefers Christmas Day. However, it is really casual. We do it after church, eat lunch, and then open them. We actually do more of our immediate family presents on Epiphany, and that's when I make the big feast, too, so we can have Cynthia over and we also get the sale prices that way. :) After all, it is when the Wise Men brought Jesus His gifts. We started doing presents on Epiphany when we lived in California and our Christmas days were hectic. After church we would rush home and open presents, then pile into the car to get to Jeff's parents' house and open presents there with extended family, and then everyone would stress out to get the house recovered in time for the really extended family to come. So we started opening only one on Christmas and having Epiphany all to ourselves. There were plenty of other gifts...

How do you decorate your Christmas tree? Lights and ornaments. On our first Christmas dating, I got us a couple of ornaments, then a friend made them for us for a couple of years as presents, so we developed a tradition of buying one or two ornaments each year that tell us something about the year...so when we hang them we can say "Oh, we got this one because Chris learned to read, or Maggie's first year playing tee ball." etc. Our newest one is to commemorate our trip to Hawaii for my parents' 50th.

Snow! Love it or dread it? For Christmas? Dread it. I know people are big on White Christmases, but I grew up in the desert. It often was in the 50's or 60's and the sun was shining beautifully....closer to the Mediterranean climate Jesus was born in.

Can you ice skate? Yes, but I don't like it. Kills my ankles.

What was your favorite gift? Hmmm. Jeff proposed 2 days before Christmas, so I'd have to say my engagement ring.

What’s the most important thing about the holidays for you? The birth of my Lord and Savior. I also really like the family time.

What is your favorite holiday dessert? Dutch apple pie

What is your favorite tradition? I really love cooking Christmas/Epiphany dinner, but I wouldn't mind making that Hawaiian cruise a tradition, either. :)

Which do you prefer, giving or receiving? Giving. I love picking out stuff for my kids.

What is your favorite secular Christmas song? They all pretty much drive me nuts. I'm such a Grinch.

What is your favorite Advent hymn? "Hark the Glad Sound," most definitely. I missed it on Wednesday because I was running late. I was so bummed. "O Come, O Come Emmanuel" is a close second.

"What is your favorite Christmas hymn? "Angels from the Realms of Glory." As a kid it was "Angels We have Heard on High" because the 6th graders always got to sing that in the program (they were the big kids) and it had Latin in it.

(I'm starting to hear Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition in this ---"WHAT is your favorite Advent hymn? WHAT is your favorite dessert?)

Candy Canes! Yuck or Yum? I like the rainbow colored cherry ones.

Ever recycled a Christmas present? Yes, yes I have.

Friday, December 05, 2008

I AM Ingrid!!!

My sweet hubby always tells me that I remind him of Ingrid Bergman (which means something because "Casablanca" is his favorite movie), so I thought that getting this result on this quiz was great...and it pretty much has me pegged. ..well, except I don't have the really bad self-esteem issues, abandonment issues, and I don't know that my bouts with winter depression quite hit despair.

HT: Cheryl at A Round Unvarnished Tale

Your result for Are You a Jackie or a Marilyn? Or Someone Else? Mad Men-era Female Icon Quiz...

You Are an Ingrid!


You are an Ingrid -- "I am unique"

Ingrids have sensitive feelings and are warm and perceptive.

How to Get Along with Me

  • * Give me plenty of compliments. They mean a lot to me.

  • * Be a supportive friend or partner. Help me to learn to love and value myself.

  • * Respect me for my special gifts of intuition and vision.

  • * Though I don't always want to be cheered up when I'm feeling melancholy, I sometimes like to have someone lighten me up a little.

  • * Don't tell me I'm too sensitive or that I'm overreacting!

What I Like About Being an Ingrid

  • * my ability to find meaning in life and to experience feeling at a deep level

  • * my ability to establish warm connections with people

  • * admiring what is noble, truthful, and beautiful in life

  • * my creativity, intuition, and sense of humor

  • * being unique and being seen as unique by others

  • * having aesthetic sensibilities

  • * being able to easily pick up the feelings of people around me

What's Hard About Being an Ingrid

  • * experiencing dark moods of emptiness and despair

  • * feelings of self-hatred and shame; believing I don't deserve to be loved

  • * feeling guilty when I disappoint people

  • * feeling hurt or attacked when someone misundertands me

  • * expecting too much from myself and life

  • * fearing being abandoned

  • * obsessing over resentments

  • * longing for what I don't have

Ingrids as Children Often

  • * have active imaginations: play creatively alone or organize playmates in original games

  • * are very sensitive

  • * feel that they don't fit in

  • * believe they are missing something that other people have

  • * attach themselves to idealized teachers, heroes, artists, etc.

  • * become antiauthoritarian or rebellious when criticized or not understood

  • * feel lonely or abandoned (perhaps as a result of a death or their parents' divorce)

Ingrids as Parents

  • * help their children become who they really are

  • * support their children's creativity and originality

  • * are good at helping their children get in touch with their feelings

  • * are sometimes overly critical or overly protective

  • * are usually very good with children if not too self-absorbed

Take Are You a Jackie or a Marilyn? Or Someone Else? Mad Men-era Female Icon Quiz
at HelloQuizzy